Having recently discussed his collaboration CD with Merzbow, we thought it’d be a great time to have a conversation with Christoph Heemann. One of the main culprits behind H.N.A.S, Ultra, Mirror and so much more, Christoph provided some incredible insight and an equally incredible laugh. This is a great historical episode that looks at the underground from the ’80s and beyond.

For the extra segment on the Patreon, Christoph talks about working with David Tibet and being a part of Current 93’s “Soft Black Stars.”